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Sockpuppet
#1 2017-08-13 03:03:31

I Made More Progress On The Media Closet Today (Pic)

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#2 2017-08-13 03:10:17

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Sockpuppet
#3 2017-08-13 03:13:22

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LV

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#4 2017-08-13 03:24:32

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#5 2017-08-13 03:46:31

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How much you weigh these days, jumbo?

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Sockpuppet
#6 2017-08-13 05:23:25

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How much you weigh these days, jumbo?

More than you.

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#7 2017-08-13 05:49:10

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Bucks would call brian booshie

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#8 2017-08-13 05:53:48

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I see a 120v outlet in the back that runs parallel to the low voltage wiring and is within a few inches of it.

Induction noise on the low voltage lines from that is going to be a bitch. Especially if you are running speakers off it. Lots of noise.

Should have run optical for the speakers. No noise from that and really cheap.

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#9 2017-08-13 05:55:35

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HDMI from a central location? HDMI is not for runs, it is for very short distances.

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#10 2017-08-13 06:11:32

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What is the optical format? And is there a conversion box at each end or whatnot?

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#11 2017-08-13 06:15:02

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What is the optical format? And is there a conversion box at each end or whatnot?

For speakers? You can just use Optical Toslink audio cable like this:

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Dig … d_sim_23_3

you can do S/PDIF with coax for digital or Toslink fiber. Both are 1000X better than analog and the optical lets you do as long runs as you want with zero interference.

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#12 2017-08-13 06:22:53

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For speakers? You can just use Optical Toslink audio cable like this:

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Dig … d_sim_23_3

you can do S/PDIF with coax for digital or Toslink fiber. Both are 1000X better than analog and the optical lets you do as long runs as you want with zero interference.

I'm kind of familiar with the technologies, but I'm not fresh on the breakout boxes.

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#13 2017-08-13 06:24:33

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I'm kind of familiar with the technologies, but I'm not fresh on the breakout boxes.

TOSlink says it has a 33ft max and that type of cabling is finicky.

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#14 2017-08-13 07:06:29

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TOSlink says it has a 33ft max and that type of cabling is finicky.

No, that's for cheap plastic cables.

Here's the actual standard:

https://media.digikey.com/pdf/data%20sh … oslink.pdf

The different cables:

"All-plastic fiber, having a plastic core and plastic cladding, is used for  short-distance transmission. A plastic-clad silica fiber, which consists of a  silica core and plastic cladding, is used for mid-distance transmission. Silica  fiber consists of a pure silica core with silica cladding and is used for  long-distance transmission."

You can see some of the different distances with the different transceivers.  Ranges are from about 30 feet to 3000 feet depending on cable/transciever. For example:

"Transmission distance: up to 10 m (via an APF cable)
up to 100 m (via a PCF cable)"

See page 10. Lots of 1000 meter toslink

Here's some 30 meter Toslink

https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Optical- … B00NPRP0Z0

Just $13

Just like everything, you need to look at what you are connecting.

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#15 2017-08-13 12:45:35

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For speakers? You can just use Optical Toslink audio cable like this:

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Dig … d_sim_23_3

you can do S/PDIF with coax for digital or Toslink fiber. Both are 1000X better than analog and the optical lets you do as long runs as you want with zero interference.

Optical is barely adequate.

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#16 2017-08-13 12:51:59

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PVC conduit not even.

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#17 2017-08-13 12:53:54

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Tits too small

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time is the master
#18 2017-08-13 13:50:50

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It looks ok, but what is the point of all of this?

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Sockpuppet
#19 2017-08-13 17:32:55

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I see a 120v outlet in the back that runs parallel to the low voltage wiring and is within a few inches of it.

Induction noise on the low voltage lines from that is going to be a bitch. Especially if you are running speakers off it. Lots of noise.

Should have run optical for the speakers. No noise from that and really cheap.

It's a risk, but I have never experienced it in practice. The EMT helps. It is also about a foot away, not just a few inches. Plus I am not a true audiophile. I am not after a "perfect" listening experience. So if it can only be heard with the volume up and no source input then it wouldn't be noticeable to me with a source input.

That said, I have a "plan B" for electric if needed.

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Sockpuppet
#20 2017-08-13 17:38:21

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HDMI from a central location? HDMI is not for runs, it is for very short distances.

This was discussed the other day. HDMI has no maximum length for cables in the specification. The cables must meet certain characteristics at any given length to meet the spec. In practice, you are right, it is difficult to inexpensively produce long (> 30') HDMI cables. To ensure success I did my research. I have 4x 50' runs and 2x 75' runs. All cables are active fiber cables. They are all pushing 4K content. The only issue I have is they lose synchronization when I try with HDR. So it is possible to do long HDMI runs, but it isn't cheap.

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Sockpuppet
#21 2017-08-13 17:40:07

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What is the optical format? And is there a conversion box at each end or whatnot?

Not sure what you are asking about. No optical audio. My HDMI cables are fiber,  but you wouldn't know that by looking. Please clarify.

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Sockpuppet
#22 2017-08-13 17:41:50

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For speakers? You can just use Optical Toslink audio cable like this:

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Dig … d_sim_23_3

you can do S/PDIF with coax for digital or Toslink fiber. Both are 1000X better than analog and the optical lets you do as long runs as you want with zero interference.

What are you talking about? How are you going to send an amplified signal to a speaker using TOSLink?

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Sockpuppet
#23 2017-08-13 17:42:56

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PVC conduit not even.

I have PVC conduit for the LV and EMT for the electrical.

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Sockpuppet
#24 2017-08-13 17:45:25

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time is the master wrote:

It looks ok, but what is the point of all of this?

To combine all the components of three TV locations and a whole house audio system into one location. At each TV location the only thing you will see is a TV, and optionally, a location-specific input device like a game console or BR player.

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#25 2017-08-13 17:50:27

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time is the master wrote:

It looks ok, but what is the point of all of this?

:trumpthis:

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