> GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

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anon user #2.1
#1 2017-12-04 10:06:47

GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

This week, Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) helped push a tax bill through the Senate that will cost about $1 trillion. At the same time, he lamented the difficulties of finding the money to fund the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), which pays for healthcare for nine million children and costs about $14 billion a year — a program Hatch helped create.

A Sunday-morning tweet from MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough quoting Hatch kicked off a dustup on Twitter over the Utah Republican’s take on CHIP. Funding for the program — which was created as a joint effort between Hatch and Democratic Senator Edward Kennedy in 1997 — expired at the end of September; Congress has yet to reauthorize it. That puts health care for millions of American children at risk.

On Thursday evening, as the Senate debated the Republican tax plan, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) asked whether there’s “something we can do to get the children’s health insurance program done.”

Hatch’s response, in a nutshell: Yes, we’ll fund the program, but we’re really short on money.

“We’re going to do CHIP, there’s no question about it in my mind. And it’s got to be done the right way,” Hatch said. “But the reason CHIP’s having trouble is because we don’t have money anymore, and to just add more and more spending and more and more spending, and you can look at the rest of the bill for the more and more spending.”

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/1 … p-tax-bill

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#2 2017-12-04 12:11:18

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

Well duh.  How many votes do those buck children and their parents provide for the Republican party?

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#3 2017-12-04 12:37:47

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

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#4 2017-12-04 13:16:22

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

anon user #2.1 wrote:

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/12/3/16730496/orrin-hatch-chip-tax-bill

Guess what, dipshyt?  The US is close to broke.

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#5 2017-12-04 15:40:06

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Guess what, dipshyt?  The US is close to broke.

Exactly.  And that's why we need to give trillions in tax breaks to job creators, and not billions to worthless bucks.

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#6 2017-12-04 15:50:30

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

Libs hate it when people get to keep more of the money they earn.

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#7 2017-12-04 16:36:17

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

Get a job!

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#8 2017-12-04 18:36:03

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

This thread didn't go the way porkbelly expected...

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anon user #2.1
#9 2017-12-04 18:45:22

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This thread didn't go the way porkbelly expected...

Porkbelly??!

No, I know what to expect here. 


OH WOW!  I JUST REALIZED I AM A HORRIBLE PERSON AND A MAJOR ASSHOLE!  ANON USER #2.1 IS RIGHT!  I PROMISE NEVER TO BE A RACIST BAGGER AGAIN!
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Ron_Santo_Redux
#10 2017-12-04 18:47:09

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anon user #2.1 wrote:

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/12/3/16730496/orrin-hatch-chip-tax-bill

It's not the responsibility of tax payers to pay for your kid's  healthcare


sounds heartless, but it's the reality

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anon user #2.1
#11 2017-12-04 18:49:40

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Ron_Santo_Redux wrote:

It's not the responsibility of tax payers to pay for your kid's  healthcare


sounds heartless, but it's the reality

...but it is the responsibility of taxpayers to pay subsidies and bailouts to billionaires, right?

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#12 2017-12-04 18:59:59

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

anon user #2.1 wrote:

...but it is the responsibility of taxpayers to pay subsidies and bailouts to billionaires, right?

They can afford the lobby.  Someone who is poor can help them selves by not having kids if they know can't feed them ...

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#13 2017-12-04 19:27:37

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

anon user #2.1 wrote:

...but it is the responsibility of taxpayers to pay subsidies and bailouts to billionaires, right?

You mean by not forcing them to be the only ones paying taxes, right?

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#14 2017-12-04 20:53:50

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anon user #343 wrote:

Porkbelly??!



Someone who can't even hold down a charity job lacks sufficient knowledge of the world to express political opinions.

This is why people instinctively gravitate towards winners like President Trump. It's a sad commentary that, year after year, the presidential election is between someone with life and business experience on the Republican side versus a career civil servant Democrat who "somehow" got rich doing it.

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#15 2017-12-04 20:57:05

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Guess what, dipshyt?  The US is close to broke.

How are we close to broke?

We have a mint
We have the federal reserve
We have the military to enforce contracts
The dollar is the premier reserve currency in the world.

I'm not saying the United States can't go broke; I am just saying we are a long way from "close"

(Cue stupid rant about joooooz)

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Original_Lonely_Guy
#16 2017-12-04 21:07:17

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

anon user #2.1 wrote:

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/12/3/16730496/orrin-hatch-chip-tax-bill


Some of those children are brown.

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Original_Lonely_Guy
#17 2017-12-04 21:08:26

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

Ron_Santo_Redux wrote:

It's not the responsibility of tax payers to pay for your kid's  healthcare

Of course it is. Every other first world nation does it. The US is not exceptional. We need to do it too.

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#18 2017-12-04 21:09:59

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

wrote:

How are we close to broke?

We have a mint
We have the federal reserve
We have the military to enforce contracts
The dollar is the premier reserve currency in the world.

I'm not saying the United States can't go broke; I am just saying we are a long way from "close"

(Cue stupid rant about joooooz)

20 trillion in debt...at some point it has to be paid back..

we are the living, breathing definition of "broke"

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#19 2017-12-04 21:10:17

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Original_Lonely_Guy wrote:

Of course it is. Every other first world nation does it. The US is not exceptional. We need to do it too.

Actually we are exceptional.  Or at least we used to be before Barack Obama was elected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#20 2017-12-04 21:12:43

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

Original_Lonely_Guy wrote:

Every other first world nation does it.


Get the fuq out of my country, you fuqing faggot ass, cock sucking, freeloader!!

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#21 2017-12-04 21:12:43

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

Original_Lonely_Guy wrote:

Every other first world nation does it.


Get the fuq out of my country, you fuqing faggot ass, cock sucking, freeloader!!

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#22 2017-12-04 21:12:44

Re: GOP Senator says it’s hard to fund $14 billion children’s health care program — then advocates for $1 trillion tax cut

Original_Lonely_Guy wrote:

Every other first world nation does it.


Get the fuq out of my country, you fuqing faggot ass, cock sucking, freeloader!!

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#23 2017-12-04 21:32:51

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Ron_Santo_Redux wrote:

20 trillion in debt...at some point it has to be paid back..

we are the living, breathing definition of "broke"

Actually it doesn't have to be paid back. Just sell more bonds to pay off the old ones. After a few decades inflation will take care of it. Also, the us could simply default on the debt. Or, if you want to get fancy, the us could say dollars are now worth one one trillionth of what they were yesterday. Sovereign state finances are not at all like household finances. Many nations have "gone broke" pulling the slimy tactics I just mentioned. It could happen to the United States as well but we are not "close" in any reasonable sense of the word.

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#24 2017-12-04 21:46:36

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Actually it doesn't have to be paid back. Just sell more bonds to pay off the old ones. After a few decades inflation will take care of it. Also, the us could simply default on the debt. Or, if you want to get fancy, the us could say dollars are now worth one one trillionth of what they were yesterday. Sovereign state finances are not at all like household finances. Many nations have "gone broke" pulling the slimy tactics I just mentioned. It could happen to the United States as well but we are not "close" in any reasonable sense of the word.

Ponzi schemes always fail.  Even government run ones.  See the Soviet Union, Venezuela, Weimar Republic, Argentina, Greece......

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#25 2017-12-05 01:47:40

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anon user #2.1 wrote:

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/12/3/16730496/orrin-hatch-chip-tax-bill

You know who should be paying for those kids' health care? Their parents.

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