> The Trump Food Box might, literally, be the stupidest idea in human history.

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anon user #2.1
#26 2018-02-13 20:55:11

Re: The Trump Food Box might, literally, be the stupidest idea in human history.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

There is this interesting argument that Mulvany made when he announced this -- the idea is that the government could buy the food at half price wholesale, and thus could actually be more efficient at getting aid to people.

This view is just plain wrong.

Its certainly true that a large bulk purchase of a product would be lower in price per unit. However, someone has to divide the portions, someone has to pack them, some truck has to deliver them. Will the government take on all these roles?

Most grocery stores make a profit of something like 1% on staples. The highest markups are on prepared foods, that is why you walk into any Whole Foods and you find tons of prepared items.

I think I read that under the proposal states will be free to implement the logistics of delivery.  I suspect Trump and the baggers want to use that to humiliate recipients.  There will probably be a distinct bright red or pink truck marked "FOOD STAMP TRUCK" or "WELFARE TRUCK" so that the people needing the assistance get humiliated in front of their neighbors.

The problem with this I think is that the quality is going to get to such a low level that more than likely the feed we give to pigs and cattle will be safer and of higher quality.  Especially under this administration.

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#27 2018-02-13 21:02:07

Re: The Trump Food Box might, literally, be the stupidest idea in human history.

anon user #2.1 wrote:

I think I read that under the proposal states will be free to implement the logistics of delivery.  I suspect Trump and the baggers want to use that to humiliate recipients.  There will probably be a distinct bright red or pink truck marked "FOOD STAMP TRUCK" or "WELFARE TRUCK" so that the people needing the assistance get humiliated in front of their neighbors.

The problem with this I think is that the quality is going to get to such a low level that more than likely the feed we give to pigs and cattle will be safer and of higher quality.  Especially under this administration.

You're right. Welfare recipients shouldn't be denied their god given right to choose between Trader Joes and Whole Foods all-organic free-range grass fed non-GMO raised animals.

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Diarrhetrius Brown
#28 2018-02-13 22:04:49

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Sockpuppet wrote:

Lunacy.  Boondoggle.

Serious question.  Why should I be forced to feed bucks that are able bodied but to fuqing lazy to work?

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Ron_Santo_Redux
#29 2018-02-13 22:06:48

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Sockpuppet wrote:

It reduces human dignity..

BOOO-FUQING HOOO!!!!!

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Phillip_McCavity
#30 2018-02-13 22:07:55

Re: The Trump Food Box might, literally, be the stupidest idea in human history.

anon user #2.1 wrote:

I think I read that under the proposal states will be free to implement the logistics of delivery.  I suspect Trump and the baggers want to use that to humiliate recipients.  There will probably be a distinct bright red or pink truck marked "FOOD STAMP TRUCK" or "WELFARE TRUCK" so that the people needing the assistance get humiliated in front of their neighbors.

The problem with this I think is that the quality is going to get to such a low level that more than likely the feed we give to pigs and cattle will be safer and of higher quality.  Especially under this administration.

The quality issue is something I don't worry about. In fact, after thinking about it, families on SNAP could be given a web site to order from, and could pick up their boxes at a local participating store. Being able to order food up to a certain amount would allow for some choice depending on family situation (for instance, gluten intolerant could opt out of having pasta).

Its probably, though, going to be less efficient than the current system we have now. SNAP families are restricted in what they can buy already.

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Garry_Renker
#31 2018-02-13 22:59:50

Re: The Trump Food Box might, literally, be the stupidest idea in human history.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

The quality issue is something I don't worry about. In fact, after thinking about it, families on SNAP could be given a web site to order from, and could pick up their boxes at a local participating store. Being able to order food up to a certain amount would allow for some choice depending on family situation (for instance, gluten intolerant could opt out of having pasta).

Its probably, though, going to be less efficient than the current system we have now. SNAP families are restricted in what they can buy already.

No they are not restricted, WIC is.

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Toenail Puppy
#32 2018-02-13 23:14:26

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Sockpuppet wrote:

It reduces human dignity. It’s a slap in the face. On the practical side it’s wasteful since most people won’t want / need a significant portion of the box since the box isn’t tailored.

The food stamp fraud story line is such a joke. The known fraud rates are a couple percent. Even if it was massive fraud - say 25% - the money lost would be a drop in the bucket compared to the waste and fraud in something that is a true problem like military contracting.

Concern over food stamp fraud is just a way for people who don’t need help to try and punish those who do. It’s not a real problem.

One could avoid the embarrassment by getting a fuqing job. Just a thought.

You might be much healthier if your week's rations came in a box instead of on a shipping pallet.

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Sockpuppet
#33 2018-02-13 23:24:41

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WithoutFroth wrote:

How much did you donate to the local food bank last year?  Any money? Any food? Any time?

Oh right...

No. I don’t believe in private charity. Most things funded by private charity should be funded by the government.

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Sockpuppet
#34 2018-02-13 23:26:08

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Stephen Miller wrote:

Let them eat creamed corn.  And if they don't like it, they should get a job.

Wow. You’re so edgy.

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Sockpuppet
#35 2018-02-13 23:30:08

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Duplicate

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Hell_Is_Like_Newark
#36 2018-02-13 23:30:20

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Sockpuppet
#37 2018-02-13 23:30:40

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anon user #2.1 wrote:

Also it makes the government directly responsible for what the poor eat.  So if it ends up being harmful to them then the poor ought to be able to sue for damages and be compensated.  Trump suggests "Beans and pasta" but that isn't necessarily healthy.  For example starch is horrible for diabetics and not too great for anyone really.

Baggers insist government should stay out of healthcare decisions because those are too personal to involve the government. Yet someone it is okay for the government to know best and decide what food people should eat.

It has nothing to do with $90 a month in food benefits. And it has everything to do with a garbage bag of a person exerting power and control over a person with lesser resources.

It’s paternalism at its worst and goes against every economic theory that baggers process to adore.

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Sockpuppet
#38 2018-02-13 23:36:04

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., wrote:

You're right. Welfare recipients shouldn't be denied their god given right to choose between Trader Joes and Whole Foods all-organic free-range grass fed non-GMO raised animals.

They should be given cash and the freedom to do what they want with it.

I’d also be open to a PX-style system of government run food stores where anybody could shop, but you could also make it so those were the only locations where EBT was accepted. This would solve the choice problem.

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Sockpuppet
#39 2018-02-13 23:36:52

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Diarrhetrius Brown wrote:

Serious question.  Why should I be forced to feed bucks that are able bodied but to fuqing lazy to work?

You don’t get to choose how your taxes are spent.

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#40 2018-02-13 23:57:17

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Sockpuppet wrote:

You don’t get to choose how your taxes are spent.

wrong
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time is the master
#41 2018-02-14 01:19:17

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Phillip_McCavity
#42 2018-02-14 01:35:34

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Garry_Renker wrote:

No they are not restricted, WIC is.

I'm been shopping with people on food stamps. They can only buy food -- and certain classes of food -- with their benefits.

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Phillip_McCavity
#43 2018-02-14 01:36:58

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Sockpuppet wrote:

They should be given cash and the freedom to do what they want with it.

This is the most economically efficient solution.

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Garry_Renker
#44 2018-02-14 01:48:14

Re: The Trump Food Box might, literally, be the stupidest idea in human history.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

I'm been shopping with people on food stamps. They can only buy food -- and certain classes of food -- with their benefits.

So have I, you can pretty much buy anything at Kroger that isn't cooked.

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RockHardConservative
#45 2018-02-14 02:10:47

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The more you hate it the more I love it. 

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Sir Colin Dripnozzle
#46 2018-02-14 02:30:08

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RockHardConservative wrote:

The more you hate it the more I love it. 

Yeah but you're an idiot, Earl.





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Sockpuppet
#47 2018-02-14 03:08:46

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RockHardConservative wrote:

The more you hate it the more I love it. 

No wonder your party is incapable of governing. We aren’t paying you to be in constant LULZ. We are paying you to govern.

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BEN_BANNED
#48 2018-02-14 07:06:28

Re: The Trump Food Box might, literally, be the stupidest idea in human history.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

I'm been shopping with people on food stamps. They can only buy food -- and certain classes of food -- with their benefits.

CANDYS BARS, BAR-B-CUE POTATO CHIPS, MONSTER ENERGY DRINKS, YADA YADA....

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anon user #2.1
#49 2018-02-14 11:25:48

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Leave it to the racists and baggers to actually be jealous of near starving people in poverty.  As if we didn't need more evidence of their being mentally ill.

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RockHardConservative
#50 2018-02-14 11:35:16

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Sir Colin Dripnozzle wrote:

Yeah but you're an idiot, Earl.





Hi Brian! 

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