> Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

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HEEBUH_HEEBUH
#26 2018-04-17 02:09:23

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

DNA is DNA, it has nothing to do with race.

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HEEBUH_HEEBUH
#27 2018-04-17 02:11:07

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

I don't think human DNA has changed much for the past 400,000 years or so.

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HEEBUH_HEEBUH
#28 2018-04-17 02:16:13

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

The point is that although haplogroups are associated with an area, the presence of such a group in your DNA does not mean your ancestors came from that area.

What do you mean?

What does it mean to say a haplogroup is "associated with" an area? And if your haplogroup is associated with an area, why wouldn't your ancestors have come from that area? We're mobile? So what? Your dad didn't come from that area, but why wouldn't it be reasonable to suppose that his father's father's father's ... father's father did, if that's where the haplogroup first existed?

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BEN_BANNED
#29 2018-04-17 06:11:52

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

WHERE WOULD THE CUBAN SPERM DONOR'S DNA ORIGINATE FROM?

HE LOOKS LIKE A TYPICAL LATRINO.

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Sockpuppet
#30 2018-04-17 13:15:04

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Senator Bergdahl wrote:

I am sure you are getting your diet in order this week in anticipation, right?

No. I am eating freestyle this week. Anything goes.

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Avid Paddler
#31 2018-04-17 13:20:24

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

See: The boy who cried wolf

I'm serious about my diet this time.
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Senator Bergdahl
#32 2018-04-17 15:20:26

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Sockpuppet wrote:

No. I am eating freestyle this week. Anything goes.

So this whole "personal trainer" business is...as usual...half-assed nonsense.

Why do you want to become totally immobile? Why do you want to force your sick wife to wait on you 24/7?

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Sockpuppet
#33 2018-04-17 15:26:51

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Senator Bergdahl wrote:

So this whole "personal trainer" business is...as usual...half-assed nonsense.

Why do you want to become totally immobile? Why do you want to force your sick wife to wait on you 24/7?

Wrong.

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Senator Bergdahl
#34 2018-04-17 19:03:32

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Sockpuppet wrote:

Wrong.

So you will be following all diet advice you receive starting this Saturday, correct?

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Phillip_McCavity
#35 2018-04-17 19:33:58

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Camp Idiot Presents wrote:

That's true, however in the pre-historic past people were far less mobile so their traits for appearance (at the least) were condensed and thus identifiable.

I think the debate is about how much the differences in appearance can be assumed to represent differences in the  expression of other traits via DNA.

People in prehistory didn't live long enough in any one area to develop singular area common traits. Most farms, for instance, only lasted a generation or two.

Add in wars, disease, and migration, and what you find is that people today have only a few common ancestors, some of which lived long after prehistory, and even those ancestors had DNA that was the result of serious mixing.

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Camp Idiot Presents
#36 2018-04-17 20:31:49

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

People in prehistory didn't live long enough in any one area to develop singular area common traits. Most farms, for instance, only lasted a generation or two.

Add in wars, disease, and migration, and what you find is that people today have only a few common ancestors, some of which lived long after prehistory, and even those ancestors had DNA that was the result of serious mixing.

That's a broad generalization. I think people lived long enough to procreate, and that's all it takes.

It's only recently that people have consistently lived multi-generation spanning lives.

I think Race for people is the equivalent of species in animals, the scientists just resit this for their own purposes. Human beings are shifted up the scale by one degree due to prior self-importance, center of the universe sorts of ideas.

To me the different appearances of animals, and slight differences in bones or coloration, ventral flaps, iris shapes etc. is clearly he equivalent of the different regional appearance differences in humans, which i believe do represent behavioral traits to some degree. Though those trials are actually only express via cultural differences due to 19th century homogenization (of species). Such that identifying true racial differences in behavior is very difficult, if not impossible due to perception bias.

Some of this confusion may have been due to man being supposed to be in the image of GOD - singular. Which coincides with the development of the genetic theory in terms of the prominence of the belief at the time and man's image of himself in the Western world.

What could be happening is an observable influence of culture itself on the genome. Notify the Nobel committee where to send my cheque.

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Senator Bergdahl
#37 2018-04-17 21:10:16

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

People in prehistory didn't live long enough in any one area to develop singular area common traits. Most farms, for instance, only lasted a generation or two.

Add in wars, disease, and migration, and what you find is that people today have only a few common ancestors, some of which lived long after prehistory, and even those ancestors had DNA that was the result of serious mixing.

You really are a blowhard's blowhard.

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Phillip_McCavity
#38 2018-04-17 21:25:55

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Camp Idiot Presents wrote:

I think Race for people is the equivalent of species in animals, the scientists just resit this for their own purposes. Human beings are shifted up the scale by one degree due to prior self-importance, center of the universe sorts of ideas.

Races aren't species. Something about viable offspring being possible between any two male and female of reproductive age.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 … utherford/

Fast forward millennia to the recent riots in Charlottesville, which showed how volatile the issue of race still is in America. How can the study of DNA enlighten us?

In many ways, genetics makes a mockery of race. The characteristics of normal human variation we use to determine broad social categories of race—such as black, Asian, or white—are mostly things like skin color, morphological features, or hair texture, and those are all biologically encoded.

But when we look at the full genomes from people all over the world, those differences represent a tiny fraction of the differences between people. There is, for instance, more genetic diversity within Africa than in the rest of the world put together. If you take someone from Ethiopia and someone from the Sudan, they are more likely to be more genetically different from each other than either one of those people is to anyone else on the planet!

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Camp Idiot Presents
#39 2018-04-17 22:18:39

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

Races aren't species. Something about viable offspring being possible between any two male and female of reproductive age.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 … utherford/

Fast forward millennia to the recent riots in Charlottesville, which showed how volatile the issue of race still is in America. How can the study of DNA enlighten us?

In many ways, genetics makes a mockery of race. The characteristics of normal human variation we use to determine broad social categories of race—such as black, Asian, or white—are mostly things like skin color, morphological features, or hair texture, and those are all biologically encoded.

But when we look at the full genomes from people all over the world, those differences represent a tiny fraction of the differences between people. There is, for instance, more genetic diversity within Africa than in the rest of the world put together. If you take someone from Ethiopia and someone from the Sudan, they are more likely to be more genetically different from each other than either one of those people is to anyone else on the planet!

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I think that they are, so we'll have to disagree.I think you're just really afraid of racial labels. Next it will be illegal to have a preference for blondes with big boobs. Time will prove my position correct.

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Sockpuppet
#40 2018-04-17 22:51:47

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Senator Bergdahl wrote:

So you will be following all diet advice you receive starting this Saturday, correct?

No. I will follow advice that I find appropriate.

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Sockpuppet
#41 2018-04-17 22:54:09

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

People in prehistory didn't live long enough in any one area to develop singular area common traits. Most farms, for instance, only lasted a generation or two.

Add in wars, disease, and migration, and what you find is that people today have only a few common ancestors, some of which lived long after prehistory, and even those ancestors had DNA that was the result of serious mixing.

Actually there is new evidence that early people were a lot less nomadic than previously thought. I’ll try to find an article. The evidence came from a site in the UK IIRC.

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Senator Bergdahl
#42 2018-04-17 23:26:15

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Sockpuppet wrote:

No. I will follow advice that I find appropriate.

Why would you bother paying for this when you are clearly not going to change your lifestyle at all? Is it merely to appease your wife?

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Paperclip
#43 2018-04-17 23:36:07

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Tashfiend Garlique wrote:

FYI that site is fuqing bullshyt. For example, mine says I'm part South Asian.

That explains your horrid body odor and the tiny penis.

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Giant Buck Cock
#44 2018-04-17 23:38:17

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

RockHardConservative wrote:

Sure is a lot of buck in you.
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Not as much as what's been up in you.

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Sockpuppet
#45 2018-04-17 23:56:28

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Senator Bergdahl wrote:

Why would you bother paying for this when you are clearly not going to change your lifestyle at all? Is it merely to appease your wife?

I am paying for the personal trainer to help with mobility. The dietary advice comes free as a bonus. I would never pay for dietary advice.

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Senator Bergdahl
#46 2018-04-17 23:57:18

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Sockpuppet wrote:

I am paying for the personal trainer to help with mobility. The dietary advice comes free as a bonus. I would never pay for dietary advice.

You cannot see the direct connection between your diet and your mobility issues?

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Phillip_McCavity
#47 2018-04-18 00:44:19

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

HEEBUH_HEEBUH wrote:

What do you mean?

What does it mean to say a haplogroup is "associated with" an area? And if your haplogroup is associated with an area, why wouldn't your ancestors have come from that area? We're mobile? So what? Your dad didn't come from that area, but why wouldn't it be reasonable to suppose that his father's father's father's ... father's father did, if that's where the haplogroup first existed?

Because of wars, migrations, and plague. History is chock full of massive wars and migrations destroying civilizations, and plague wiping out vast numbers of people. Add to that that humans really aren't that old a species.

Also the same haplogroup might be in multiple geographically distant populations.

What this all means is that our common ancestors lived recently. They too had mixed DNA from previous historical events.

If you are actually interested in the science, read:

https://gcbias.org/european-genealogy-faq/

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Tashfiend Garlique
#48 2018-04-18 00:48:50

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

So Phildo the autistic retard thinks that a black man and a chinaman have the same DNA?  And race is something that doesn't exist?

Do I have this right?

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#49 2018-04-18 00:50:06

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

In many ways, genetics makes a mockery of race. The characteristics of normal human variation we use to determine broad social categories of race—such as black, Asian, or white—are mostly things like skin color, morphological features, or hair texture, and those are all biologically encoded.

The second sentence makes a mockery of the first sentence.

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HEEBUH_HEEBUH
#50 2018-04-18 01:00:25

Re: Got My DNA Results. I Am More English (i.e. American) Than 95% Of Racists On CI. Also, I'm Native American, Jewish, And African.

Phillip_McCavity wrote:

Because of wars, migrations, and plague. History is chock full of massive wars and migrations destroying civilizations, and plague wiping out vast numbers of people. Add to that that humans really aren't that old a species.

Also the same haplogroup might be in multiple geographically distant populations.

What this all means is that our common ancestors lived recently. They too had mixed DNA from previous historical events.

If you are actually interested in the science, read:

https://gcbias.org/european-genealogy-faq/

1. What does it mean to say a haplogroup is "associated with" an area?

2. If your haplogroup is associated with an area, why wouldn't your ancestors have come from that area?

I'm asking about the obvious contradiction.

If it's proper to associate a haplogroup with some original region, present-day members have ancestors who came from that region. Otherwise, what does it mean to say that a haplogroup is "associated with" a region?

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